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$40 a Day is a Food Network show hosted by Rachael Ray. In each episode, Rachael takes a one-day trip to an American, Canadian, or European city with only US$40 to spend on food. While touring the city, she finds restaurants to go to, and usually manages to fit three meals and some sort of snack or after-dinner drink into her small budget. The show premiered on April 1, 2002, some five months after the debut of 30 Minute Meals, making it her second Food Network show. Production is currently on hiatus. Clips are sometimes used in Ray's later series, Rachael Ray's Tasty Travels. Another Food Network series, Giada's Weekend Getaways starring Giada De Laurentiis, is similar in format. The show is currently being rerun on The Travel Channel.

The upstairs and downstairs worlds collide when this young and single crew of "yachties" live, love and work together onboard a luxurious mega yacht while tending to the ever-changing needs of their wealthy, demanding charter guests.

Breaker High is a Canadian teen comedy-drama series that ran from 1997 to 1998, airing on YTV in Canada and on UPN in the United States.

Passengers who search for romantic nights aboard a beautiful ship travelling to tropical or mysterious countries, decide to pass their vacation aboard the "Love Boat", where Gopher, Dr. Bricker, Isaac, Julie, and Captain Stubing try their best to please them, and sometimes help them fall in love. Things are not always so easy, but in the end, love wins.

Owner Basil Fawlty, his wife Sybil, a chambermaid Polly, and Spanish waiter Manuel attempt to run their hotel amidst farcical situations and an array of demanding guests.

Gavin is an ordinary boy from Billericay, Essex. Stacey is an ordinary girl from Barry Island, South Wales. They’ve spoken on the phone every day at work for months but they’ve never actually met… until now.

Former British soldier Jonathan Pine navigates the shadowy recesses of Whitehall and Washington where an unholy alliance operates between the intelligence community and the secret arms trade. To infiltrate the inner circle of lethal arms dealer Richard Onslow Roper, Pine must himself become a criminal.

Zack and Cody Martin are aboard the SS Tipton, a luxury passenger cruise liner owned by London's father. The ship cruises the world with tourists and students who attend classes at Seven Seas High, the one high school that London's dad thinks will make his daughter a better student. While out at sea, Zack and Cody still have their compass pointed towards mischief, and London learns to live a "fabu-less" lifestyle, including sharing a small room with Bailey, a country girl from Kansas.

Ian Archer wakes up one morning to find himself at a mysterious academy for teens with special abilities. Unable to find answers to his questions from the school’s faculty and cut off from any kind of outside contact or means of escape, Ian forms a secret group with fellow suspicious students.

In this updated version of the classic "The Love Boat" series, recently divorced former U.S. Navy captain Jim Kennedy III takes the helm of a Caribbean cruise ship - along with its crew mates - on adventuresome voyages that sometimes lead to romance. The series aired on UPN from 1998 to 1999.

Chasing Mummies: The Amazing Adventures of Zahi Hawass is a reality television series which is airing on The History Channel in the United States. Produced by Boutique TV, this series depicts the adventures of archaeologist and Egyptologist Dr. Zahi Hawass and his discoveries in Egypt as he is followed by young archeological fellows and a camera crew. The series began on Wednesday, 14 July 2010 and aired Wednesdays at 10pm on the History Channel. The shows illustrates the complexities in the almost never-ending quest to preserve and discover artifacts from ancient Egypt.

Pull back the curtain on bizarre double lives and see the real stories of men and women who thought they were happily married, until the day they uncovered a shocking secret about their spouse leading them to wonder who it is they really fell in love with.

On the eve of World War I, Agnes Conway manages both the business and the problems of her troubled family. She finds the strength to break class barriers and help her sister Jessie marry a good boy from a family of dockside toughs. Is she strong enough to break them again when Charles Farrier, a gentleman, courts her over his parents' opposition? Agnes faces an added dilemma when she finds her heart divided between Charles and his soldier brother Reginald.

The extraordinary stories of imprisonment, murder and execution behind the walls of Britains most historic and iconic castle.

Reality meets romance, with a little twist, in the surprising dating show I WANNA MARRY “HARRY.” Summer love is in the air, as an average English “bloke” is given the royal treatment and an upper crust makeover before meeting 12 single American women searching for Prince Charming. Will he be able to convince them he's regal? And if he does, will they fall for the crown, or fall in love with the real him? Join “Harry” as he courts each of the ladies, taking them on romantic dates worthy of a princess and trying to make some version of their fairytales come true.

The explosive lives, loves and losses of an intermingled group of Montréalers are explored as they confront the subject of difference. Managing a modern relationship can be a mess. Single? Attached? Married? Divorced? Open? Closed? The most common answer is ‘It’s complicated.’

Following the fact-based historical book of the same name, this drama follows the rise of Cromwell as he becomes Henry the VIII's closest advisor. England in the 1520s is a heartbeat from disaster. If the King dies without a male heir, the country could be destroyed by civil war. Henry VIII wants to annul his marriage of twenty years and marry Anne Boleyn. The Pope and most of Europe oppose him. Into this impasse steps Thomas Cromwell: a wholly original man, a charmer, and a bully, both idealist and opportunist, astute in reading people, and implacable in his ambition. But Henry is volatile: one day tender, one day murderous. Cromwell helps him break the opposition, but what will be the price of his triumph?

Six years ago, Annie and Jake bonded over their mutual love of nachos and they've been inseparable ever since. Now, after returning from a romantic two-week island vacation, Jake’s all set to pop the question. Before he can ask, though, Annie lets loose on Jake for his inability to commit. She was expecting him to “put a ring on it” in paradise and now Jake’s perfect proposal is ruined. Not wanting to spend the next 60 years talking about that mess of a proposal, Jake and Annie decide to hold off on the engagement until they can do it right. Yet if history tells us anything, it’s when we really want things to go right that they all tend to go wrong. The only thing we know for sure is these two are destined to be together whether they can get it together or not.

The story of a pharmacist who wants to settle down and get married before reaching the age of thirty, and her family's insistence that she accepts the first groom who proposes, as well as her hilarious stories and experience with the men who propose to her.

A spin-off of the hugely successful Mighty Ships series, Mighty Cruise Ships documents the most dynamic passenger vessels in the world en route to unbelievably glorious paradise hotspots.

After his retirement, Bahgat constantly runs into trouble with his family, thanks to his wife’s intense jealousy, his issues with his children and their spouses, and the generational gap between him and his grandchildren.

For the past six months, New York pharmaceutical copywriter Gavin and Pennsylvania-based printing press employee Stacey have been flirting online and finally agree to meet... with their best friends in tow for double-date safety. Stacey's long-distance romance unnerves her family, who fears she might fall in love and move away to the big city. It's complicated enough trying to make a relationship work, but the biggest complications of all are the friends and family who are part of the package deal.

Rae Ann Carter always wanted the fairytale where she meets a prince, falls in love and gets married, but feared that dream would never come true. Suddenly, Rae goes from having no man in her life to having three – charming Luke, passionate Adam, and sophisticated Harry – all in love with Rae and asking to marry her. Which man will she choose?

A mother's journey in search for her son's murderer. The story unfolds between the past, present and even nightmares which gives subtle clues and hints to guide the mother to the murderer.

Former aerospace engineer Justin Cunningham tries to keep the Glasgow Tower turning, and Tomo Umewaka helps engineers in Osaka keep their airport from sinking into the sea.

Life After People is a television series on which scientists, structural engineers, and other experts speculate about what might become of Earth should humanity instantly disappear. The featured experts also talk about the impact of human extinction on the environment, and the vestiges of civilization thus left behind.

Welcome to the do-it-yourself instruction manual for humanity’s greatest modern-day inventions. You will need: a ton of curiosity, a healthy dose of awe and a sense of humor. Sit back and join an awesome cast of brilliant scientists (and people who just love science) on HOW TO BUILD… EVERYTHING while they break down the most complicated tech and machines into a few simple steps. Structured in the spirit of a home installation guide, each half hour episode of HOW TO BUILD… EVERYTHING breaks down the step-by-step process behind some of the world’s most complex apparatuses in a way that armchair engineers and curious minds can follow. From an Apache helicopter to a hovercraft, a cruise ship or a satellite, each episode features three machines as part of a tongue-in-cheek instruction manual.

Discover the thrilling story of how you were made, from the moment of conception to the moment of birth 280 days later. This breakthrough series follows the gestation process, using state-of-the-art CGI to reveal the most exquisite biological choreography found in nature. Across three episodes we chart how 100 trillion cells come together to make each of us a unique individual. The way you smile, the environments you thrive in, the color of your eyes – everything about you depends on an elaborate dance of biology that happens hidden away in the womb, all timed to precision. But by using the latest scientific research and advances in medicine, we can now reveal this hidden world in forensic detail. Zeroing in on milestones along the road to creation – where critical events in your miraculous assembly can change your life forever.

In the heart of the modern East End of London, a Victorian slum has been recreated and a group of 21st-century people are moving in. Michael Mosley joins them to tell the extraordinary story of how the Victorian East End changed our attitude to poverty forever.

A story based on real events from the Egyptian spy files of an Egyptian intelligence operation against the Israeli Mossad, whose hero was in fact (Ahmed Mohamed Abdel Rahman Al-Hawan)

Dr. Eva Fletcher is the newly-elected President of the fictional Georgia A&M University. Upon arriving, Eva is charged with saving the prestigious HBCU from bankruptcy and her twenty-year marriage from crumbling while managing a tumultuous relationship with her rebellious only daughter. A diverse group of freshman also promises to keep Eva's hands full.

Journeys to the tops of the treacherous Everest Himalayan Mountains, highlighting the work of a rare breed of pilots who put their lives on the line to save those facing certain death. Featuring exclusive access to a group of diverse helicopter pilots as they manage emergency calls during the climbing season as well as intimate interviews with them and their loved ones.

TV presenter and former cruise ship entertainer Jane McDonald hosts a travel show in which she embarks on a series of ocean odysseys aboard some of the world's largest and most luxurious cruise ships.

Sarah is a girl whose mental development stopped at a very young age. After she slips into a coma that lasts for years, she crosses paths with a dedicated young doctor who decides to wake her up from her coma. When she wakes up, he ends up falling with her, not knowing what he is signing up for.

A college professor rebelling on political situations, holds a big governmental position after the revolution, but he gets shocking surprises.

The series revolves around Adly Allam, an employee in the National Library, he loves reading and culture, and lives with his grumpy wife Hayat, and her brother Araby under one roof. A demon called Sala appears to him , asking him to be in his life in exchange of changing his life for the better.

Selim al-Ansary is a morally-conscious police officer who is talented at his job. He is constantly criticized by those around him, even his mother, and is perceived as an evil person. When a murder inside the police station unjustly points to him as a suspect, he gets arrested, but he decides to escape to prove his innocence.

The series revolves around the family of Haji Abdul Sattar, who is a drug dealer and is assisted by his eldest son without the knowledge of his family. When Abdul Sattar dies, his sons know the truth from their elder brother, and they decide to complete a drug deal so as not to lose their money.

In separate episodes, the series deals with the many sides of marital life and the various problems couples face across different classes and social backgrounds, through the story of the couple Mahmoud and Samia.

While Osama bin Laden and Al-Qaeda become a global threat, the rivalry between the CIA and FBI inadvertently sets the stage for the tragedy of 9/11 and the Iraq War.

Historian Dr Suzannah Lipscomb unfolds the extraordinary story of the tumultuous love affair between Henry VIII and Anne Boleyn, and asks: was it really love that brought them together – and was it love that tore them apart? Suzannah's journey will take her from Anne's childhood home at Hever Castle in Kent to the French palace where, some say, she learned the art of love. She will also visit Hampton Court, where Henry built the Great Hall for his new queen, and the Tower of London, where he had her beheaded.

A police officer investigates a series of crimes, with each investigation spanning two episodes out of 26 separate episodes.

Farida, a photographer, goes to a hotel to meet her friend and husband, who works at the hotel's Vertigo bar. She finds herself the only witness to the murder of two businessmen and their guards, as well as the lives of her close friends.

Learn about the creation of some of the world’s most ambitious and technologically advanced buildings. From subaquatic homes to futuristic towers and pencil thin skyscrapers, see how these previously impossible structures are taking shape.

When a prominent writer finds confidential documents incriminating government officials, he decided to publish them, risking his own life and his family's.

An ambitious lawyer survives an assassination attempt, he escapes to Belgium to start a new life with a different identity, decides to seek revenge.

People Magazine explores shocking stories of ordinary people who, lured by promises of eternal life, get caught up in a terrifying web of abuse, deception, and manipulation. Explore the deeply disturbing world of cults through the eyes of survivors who managed to escape.

Explores the hidden secrets of three of the most fascinating cities of the ancient world: Cairo, Athens and Istanbul. 3D scans allow us to view the architectural jewels of these cities as they've never been seen before.

Dolph Lundgren challenges members of the public to a combination of physical challenges and quiz questions. Contestants who manage to make their way to the top of the ‘tower' will whisk their mates off on holiday.

From deep-sea danger to mega holiday cruises, helping rivers flow and harvesting power, this program goes deep, unlocking the ultimate challenges of our water planet.

'And So It Happened' is a series that deals with the different problems women have been facing in Egypt, especially in the Southern parts, between the years 1918 and 2018, showing the difference in ideas and traditions.

Reyhan is a country girl, humble, kind and caring, who promises to marry the son of old family friend Hikmet, after he reveals a terminal diagnosis.

The story of Sayed (Fahmy), who comes from a poor background and marries a well-off woman, and gets in trouble when a family member cons a sum of money and involves him unwillingly.

40 years in the future, space captain Ryan Clark and the crew of the luxury space cruise ship Avenue 5 navigate disgruntled passengers and unexpected events after experiencing technical difficulties onboard.

Chris Guthrie lives with her family on a bleak farm in North East Scotland at the beginning of the 20th century. On her mother's death, she assumes the managing of the farm with her father and her older brother, but the men fall out, leaving Chris and her father to manage it alone. When her father dies, she considers abandoning the farm, but decides to carry on alone. She marries a young farmer, Ewan Tavendale. They have a baby and are happy for the first time, then the First World War breaks out, Ewan enlists and dies in France, and Chris is left once again to carry on with the farm.

Lil' Kim and her friends Chilli, Mya, Vena E., B. Simone, Tiffany Panhilason and Char Defrancesco set sail for the ultimate Caribbean vacation filled with hilarious antics, emotional breakthroughs and spicy romances.

Follow six couples who are deeply in love and hoping to marry, but come from completely different worlds. Regular people are whisked off their feet and plunged into a high-end life of riches, extravagant experiences, and glamorous trips around the globe. On the road to the altar, the couples must try to bridge their vast differences and fit into each other's alien worlds.

Meet Mike, a pug who’s in love with the neighbour’s dog. Sadly, his plans to win Iris’ heart never seem to work out as trouble-making furry intruders always manage to interfere.

Reach the top, and everything will be yours. At the top of the tower exists everything in this world, and all of it can be yours. You can become a god. This is the story of the beginning and the end of Rachel, the girl who climbed the tower so she could see the stars, and Bam, the boy who needed nothing but her.

Follow the adventures of Darrell Rivers as she leaves home for the first time to attend an all-girls’ boarding school. Set in post-war Britain on the sun-drenched cliffs of the Cornish coast, the series explores a nostalgic world of midnight feasts, lacrosse, pranks, a mystery ghost and lasting friendships.

In the world of local neighborhoods, a sect of strong people come together to manage the affairs of these neighborhoods. Known as Al-Fetewa, they are ruffians who shoulder the responsibility of the people in their neighborhoods.

Nour Abdel Mejid, AKA Valentino, owns a number of international schools, "Valentino Schools", run by him and his domineering wife with whom he's not in agreement. Their disagreements, however, get them on several adventures and reveals many surprises along the way.

Ahd is a wealthy woman who's the head of the family, and she has always depended on coffee readings to predict significant and life-altering events in her personal and family lives, but she gradually learns that her own family is plotting against her.

Eda, who ties all her hopes to her education, confronts Serkan Bolat, who cuts off her international education scholarship and leaves her with high school diploma. Serkan Bolat offers Eda to give her scholarship back if she pretends to be his fiance for two months. Although Eda rejects the offer of this man as she hates him, she has to accept it when the conditions change. While pretending to be engaged, Serkan and Eda begin to experience a passionate, challenging relationship that will make them forget all they know right. Because love is difficult. And that's why it's amazing.

Cruise Ship Killers is a true crime series that tells the stories of people who never returned home after taking a holiday on a cruise ship, featuring interviews with family, friends, investigators and experts.

A beautiful coffee shop owner Zhong Meibao suddenly dies in a condominium at the Horizon Tower. When she died, her face still wore a doll-like makeup, hence the case was referred to as the "Doll Murder Case". This case shocks the whole tower, and after investigation the clues point to three suspects - security guard Xie Baoluo, architect Lin Dasen and property manager Lin Mengyu. All three suspects were enthralled by Zhong Meibao's beauty, and all had an intimate relationship with her. All the clue seem to point to the possibility of a love crime. However in the midst of investigation, new clues begin to emerge, and turns the focus to Zhong Meibao's complicated and painful youth. Her family, consisting of her step-father, mother, younger brother and foster mother, were implicated into the case. Just who could be the real murderer?

What happens when a woman falls in love with a guy and wants to marry him… but he has a far more important woman in his life? In this series, the only thing standing between a couple’s true love is a very different kind of “other woman.” These guys are spoiled, coddled and spoon-fed by their overbearing mothers, sending their relationships into serious romantic crisis. Follow four young women as they compete for the affection of their significant others with some very significant mothers!

Told through the screens of four young women. The series follows Jo, a hopeful romantic, and Debika, a perpetual realist. After months of talking over video chat, Jo and Debika, decide to plan their first official date at a secluded AirBnB in Hawaii. With their 'date' just days away, the threat of COVID-19 explodes, shattering all hopes of romance. Jo, a San Francisco resident, is ordered to shelter in place while Debika is ‘landlocked’, as Australia prepares to shut its international borders. With their first date on indefinite hold, the two women must now navigate virtual dating, interfering sisters and falling in love in this 'new normal' of alone, TOGETHER...

A legendary rapper manages the budding career of her niece in order to save her own while also managing massive debt.

Set in 1957, post-Windrush, and amidst the booming decade set alight by promise, the rhythm of rock and roll, swing, Hollywood starlets and fabulous fashion Three Little Birds will introduce Dudley and the rest of the world to gregarious sisters Leah and Chantrelle and their virtuous, bible-loving acquaintance, Hosanna, as they board a cruise ship from Jamaica bound for a new life in Blighty.

After disappearing from the limelight due to an ethical scandal, Abla Fahita falls victim to the ploy of a nightclub owner who seeks to exploit her, and when he is murdered under mysterious circumstances, Fahita soon becomes the prime suspect in the crime.

Everyone has three lives: a public life, a private life, and a secret life

What happens when the one you commit to spend your life with ends up taking it instead? This series looks at partner-homicide cases; stories of wives killing husbands, husbands killing wives (much more common), and love turning to loathing as passions get out of control.

A shocking medical crisis rages outside. Inside, Rick Baldwin is trying to manage a household and home-school mayhem, all while reconnecting with his young daughter, Gracie.

Aboard the mega cruise ship Sacramentum, 20-year-old new recruit, Jamie, infiltrates the 3000-strong crew in a desperate race to find his missing sister. She was working aboard the same vessel on a previous tour and vanished mid-charter.

A veteran beat cop and teenage girl fall to their deaths from a tower block in south-east London, leaving a five-year-old boy and rookie police officer Lizzie Griffiths on the roof, only for them to go missing. Detective Sergeant Sarah Collins is drafted in to investigate, working to find Lizzie before she comes to serious harm, but also to uncover the truth behind the grisly tower block deaths.

The classic docusoap that made singer Jane McDonald a star. Set sail with the crew of the luxury cruise ship Galaxy as it glides across the Caribbean Sea.

An epic, generation-spanning drama about two Latinx families vying for wealth and power in California’s Sonoma Valley.

Katie and Stefan fall for each other at a wedding and begin an affair, despite Katie already having a fiancé. Two months later at Katie’s wedding, her new husband and his entire family are murdered. Stefan and Kate blame each other and the search for the truth begins.

The Costa Concordia's demise remains one of the 21st century's most fascinating disasters. Combining first-person testimony from survivors and rescuers, and previously unseen footage, reconstructions and expert insight, the programme tells the astonishing story in forensic detail of what happened on that fateful night.

Comedian Susan Calman goes on a festive cruise around the Norwegian coastline.

After a life-altering event, Ola embarks on a journey of self-discovery while dealing with the challenges of raising two children and making ends meet.

Get hitched or call it quits? Couples put their love to the test — while shacking up with other potential matches — in a provocative reality series.

A gang plans to kill one of its members after disobeying the rules, but their plan goes south, leaving him alive to plot his revenge.

The stakes are high as four teams of colorful contestants face off to combat tremendous tipping towers.

Inspired by the long-running scripted classic about vacationers aboard a luxury Princess Cruises ship, it’s full-steam ahead on CBS for The Real Love Boat. And it’s all about romance, chronicling the adventures of real-life singles brought together for a Mediterranean voyage in search of The One. Assuming they navigate the compatibility and chemistry challenges along the way, only one lucky couple will win a cash bounty and ultimate luxury Princess Cruise. The Real Love Boat —come aboard, they’re expecting you.

Eight months after her mentor Andy Jones suffered a heart attack, Head Chef Carly is battling to forge a name for new London restaurant Point North alongside her old kitchen crew. With the pressure to draw in new, hungry customers and the financial squeeze to keep the business profitable, the team must find a way to manage their complicated personal lives whilst creating quality food day in, day out.

Years after she was forced to marry a man much older than her, Fayrouz’s monotonous life is derailed when she falls in love.

The whole story of the Costa Concordia ship disaster, the worst cruise accident since the Titanic.

For Filipino filmmaker Andre Lee, winning the Grand Jury Award at a film festival in Los Angeles for a short film he directed, wrote, and produced is the realization of his dreams. He is ready to go back home to his family and friends in the Philippines to celebrate his triumph. But on his last night in LA, he, unfortunately, falls victim to a “professional scammer”. Andre promises to himself that he will not go home until he finds the swindler who took all his money. As he looks for a cheap room where he could stay for a few weeks, he unexpectedly meets Joshua Santos, a hardworking and uptight Korean immigrant who owns a studio unit. As they start to share a small room together, Joshua willingly shares with Andre some tricks and tips for making it in Los Angeles.

A goofy, gullible sea captain is hired to helm a high-end cruise ship and becomes the perfect fall guy for an illicit smuggling operation.

The Marriage Pact follows single friends who must fulfill or break a promise from the past: a pact to marry if both are still single by a certain age. Viewers will follow the five participating couples as their relationships are put to the test, to discover whether they are truly meant to say, "I do."

A portrait of the social and political aspects of Egypt during the late 18th-century French campaign, and the most important events that ensued, from Battle of Shubra Khit between Napoleon and the Mamluk leader, Murad Bey, and through the first and second Revolt of Cairo, till the defeat and exit of the campaign.

A deep-dive into the world of Twin Flames Universe, an online group run out of suburban Michigan by the captivating YouTube influencers Jeff and Shaleia Divine. The couple's promise is to match members with their perfect partner, but former participants describe the extreme lengths they have taken in order to claim their "twin flame." Journalist Alice Hines soon discovers that the promise of true love may come at a price.

New murder mystery series set on board a luxury cruise ship, with Shayne Ward as cabaret singer Jack and Catherine Tyldesley as First Officer Kate. First destination: death in La Rochelle...

Based on the novel "Ibrahim and Inshirah" by journalist Abdel Rahman Fahmy, the series revolves around a true story from the Egyptian intelligence files, about the recruitment of an Egyptian man and his wife to spy for the benefit of Israel.

Following a sudden and unexpected break-up with their respective spouses, Mathieu invites Joëlle, his best friend since always, to live the time of a few months, an unforgettable road trip. What initially promises to be an initiation journey, quickly slips, when the duo meets Robin, a being as charismatic as dangerous, who pushes the limits of freedom, endangering for the first time the friendship that unites Mathieu et Joëlle.

As Nadim Abu Saree, who has exceptional abilities, starts working at a well-known law firm owned by Amani El Najjar, his journey becomes fraught with difficulties, and despite being exploited in numerous ways, his personality and pure heart always save him.

How are we going to lift the veiled sheets of the word remember this season? Of course,remember your name,your life, everything that belongs to you, but how will you remember who you are? Eren is a valet at a bar. One day he gets into an accident with a customer's car, which he kidnaps to take him for a ride. And he will lose that day, even everything that belongs to him. He wants to remember all he has left,Remember His Name,Remember life, remember everything he can't think of his loved ones. but a light that does not leave him alone with his crop identity (Ela) will take him out of this framework of obscurity and make everything clear in one day. But how much of this will he be able to remember. Everything from start to finish or nothing?